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TOPIC: Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy?

Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy? 12 years 7 months ago #119

There are calls for alcohol and cigarettes to be classified as more harmful than drugs like ecstasy and LSD.

A group of scientists say the current system of labelling illegal drugs as A, B or C is confusing.

They want a new list which ranks them as to how much damage they can do to your health.

The new ranking system places alcohol and tobacco in the upper half of the league table, ahead of cannabis and several Class A drugs such as ecstasy.

Did you know, a person a week in the UK dies from alcohol poisoning, while less than 10 deaths a year are linked to ecstasy use.

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Re:Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy? 12 years 5 months ago #369

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I think I can understand why they don't want to make some drugs leagal, and its because of the long term health and mental problems some of the drugs that are out there can cause if not taken correctly, and its that kind of abuse that then puts a huge strain on the health care styem.
But... If they were made legal, would this not stop all of that and help out the ones that could really
use what these drugs do.Its like if I was allowed to take \"pot\" it would help all of my musculs relaxe, which would stop alot of my pains and help me get some sleep,something that no drug on the market at the moment has done. If I was allowed to take \"speed\", I may have the energy to get up out of bed and if taken in the right doses, go back out to work...may be, which would save the goverment money. And as for the goverment,they would make money, which could go back into the health funds.
Ok now Ive put some of the world to rights,LOL, Im going to rest my brain.<br><br>Post edited by: dedi, at: 2007/06/05 01:03

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Re:Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy? 12 years 4 months ago #410

Cigarettes and Alcohol contribute widely to the governments coffers in the form of TAX. Hundreds of people die every week due to their effects on the body, but they make millions of tax pounds so never mind eh.....

Escatasy has directly ended the lives of less than 30 people in the UK over the last 15 years - but it isn't taxable!!!

It's a proven fact that Cannabis is usually the first step on the ladder to Heroin addiction.

There all bad for you!

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Re:Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy? 12 years 1 month ago #611

Between 1993 and 1997 there were 72 deaths in the UK attributed to Ecstasy.

\"It has reached such epidemic proportions in America that they talk of Suicide Tuesday. That's because people who have taken Ecstasy at the weekend are feeling so suicidal by Tuesday that they kill themselves.
\"If you study experiments around the world the evidence against Ecstasy far outweighs anything else.\"



archives.cnn.com/2002/HEALTH/09/02/ecstasy.article/index.html <br><br>Post edited by: DAEMONICUSMEDICUS, at: 2007/10/03 02:27

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Re:Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy? 11 years 11 months ago #1718

Ecstacy, like any drug is addictive and has major side effects

Ecstascy is usually taken while dancing and drinking and probably along with a number of other class A drugs so whats to say that Tuesday's depression isn't part of somethign much bigger??

There's so many scare tactics involved with this drug that nobody is willing to put themselves on the line and actually safely test E's to get us some hardened facts

Until then the general public will remain unawares and people will assume what they are fed in the press or by other misimformed sources - it's a manmade drug at the end of the day

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Re:Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy? 11 years 11 months ago #1719

I'd never touch Ecstacy (E)/(e), is fair to dangerous in my opinion/view.

I drink alcohol & I must say I shocked by the chat, that they felt alcohol was more harmful then: Ecstacy (E)/(e).

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Re:Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy? 11 years 3 months ago #7219

Mums fella was from africa an much younger than her but spent a night outside cos she would not let him in with it chewing khat in a car with a mate. Following day his mouth was a mass of puss filled blisters and red raw for over a week. My question is WHY????:S

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Re:Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy? 11 years 3 months ago #7243

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TheLadyMagenta wrote:

Mums fella was from africa an much younger than her but spent a night outside cos she would not let him in with it chewing khat in a car with a mate. Following day his mouth was a mass of puss filled blisters and red raw for over a week. My question is WHY????:S


It was crap Khat. Good quality Khat wouldn't do that (or so I'm told :)

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Re:Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy? 11 years 3 months ago #7245

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probably been sprayed with DDT or something similiar......or picked with other plants..euphorbia can do this....;)

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Re:Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy? 11 years 2 months ago #7282

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Simplistic reasoning,I know..but my view is...Make All drugs legal and carry a Govtmt Pass Stamp....
If idiots want to kill themselves using them..Go ahead...
It will free up Police numbers to deal with other Crimes...
It will free up Customs to control our borders from non-worthy entrants..
It will free up Courts to deal with Thugs etc...
It will free up Prison Space to lock up the above...
Collect taxes on Drugs sold through approved outlets...
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Re:Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy? 11 years 2 months ago #7289

Intersesting point tony but what of the deaths that would surely increase in imppressionable kids? Do we say to hell with it and build more graveyards? I hope not as my kids will be there interested and looking one day and i hope to god i can convince them not to take anything. Im not a preacher but after being in care most of my life after 12 and leaving home at 16 you can be sure iv done everything bar heroin the street form. Speed, trips, charlie, mushrooms, e,s mdma & crack once even you name it! I was ill for days at a time sometimes and when you take something bad god help you cos if your mind aint strong you,ve had it. Im not proud of it but if they say what do you know i can said everything however and i,ll skin you if you do!!! Drugs of this variety are shit pure and true and whatever the good it can do some people should be taken on medical advice and the medical assesement of a doctor. Trust me on this people. 20 years later it,s all still very clear in my mind.

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Re:Which is more harmful, alcohol or ecstasy? 11 years 2 months ago #7300

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I take your point Lady m....and I did say it was a very simplistic answer to a problem which has 2000 answers...
Thing is..in my experiance,,its out of control now....I know inner London schools where pupils are the dealers..so in the present climate most children will be confronted with the decision..
This also applies to country schools ..... a lot of the knife crime is youngsters arming themselves against other dealers...
My feeling is...its a war that is close to being lost xxxx

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