May I have a little moan please?

I don't know if this is the place or even if it is permitted to have a little moan, and I know it is only cyber stuff but I'm being bullied again by someone on a different forum.

Nothing to do with disability apart from the fact that this troll thinks he knows all about batteries and chargers for mobility scooters, electric wheelchairs and power chairs, and insists that regular car and motorcycle or motor scooter batteries will be OK and are a lot cheaper.

And now he's having yet another go at me because of my religion and where I live.

It's coming up to 1.45am here and I'm too upset to sleep, and I don't know whether it was right for me to post this here.

But who else is there I can talk to?

Sorry if this post was wrong.

Gandra wrote:

I don't know if this is the place or even if it is permitted to have a little moan, and I know it is only cyber stuff but I'm being bullied again by someone on a different forum.

Nothing to do with disability apart from the fact that this troll thinks he knows all about batteries and chargers for mobility scooters, electric wheelchairs and power chairs, and insists that regular car and motorcycle or motor scooter batteries will be OK and are a lot cheaper.

And now he's having yet another go at me because of my religion and where I live.

It's coming up to 1.45am here and I'm too upset to sleep, and I don't know whether it was right for me to post this here.

But who else is there I can talk to?

Sorry if this post was wrong.

Your never in the wrong place when some idiot is a bully to you Gandra.....Just ignore the pathetic individual ....people like that cant operate in a vacuum xxxx

Tony, it's very easy to say ignore him, but it's on a public messageboard and he appears on every thread on one of the boards, usually making comments about \"Jewish food\" or \"ask Gandra, she's the expert on Jewish stuff\".

And I mostly ignore him. But when someone else asked a question about batteries and chargers for an electric wheelchair on a chat thread on that particular board and I answered, correctly, this idiot promptly jumped in and posted a link to motorcycle and motor scooter batteries, and refused to accept that I know more about mobility equipment than he could ever dream of.

I then got the usual \"no wonder the Palestinians hate you if that is how you talk to them\" garbage.

Tony, I lost my special \"friend\" during the Lebanon war, while people on a different board on the same messageboards, were cursing my Country.

And while I was sitting here with Grad Katyushot landing within half a kilometre of me, they all kept on about how evil my Country was.

To say nothing of all the foodies going on about boycotting Israeli produce \"I wouldn't soil my hands touching the filthy stuff\" while they knew I was in the middle of a war zone - it hurts, Tony, it hurts.

And now I'm scared that perhaps someone on this site, even though it's a private site, will start on me because I'm an Orthodox Jew [which is why I don't normally post on Shabbat] and because I live in Israel.

What will I do then? I'll just have to leave here, won't I.

Why can't people just accept that I am who I am and what I am, and that I live where I live?

It sounds to me as if you need friends ...... Well,Gandra, you have several on here and I can assure you that we dont tend to sit back and allow our friends to be attacked on such grounds as religion.....location......or what side of bed you get out of...The bigots who do such things will be kicked in the proverbial balls.....
Treat me as your personal bodyguard.....I would like to know the site which allows such abuse xxxx

Forgive me please for trying to explain. It's a bit of a long story but might explain who and what I am, and where I am coming from on this subject.

I had never seen a computer, let alone used one, until I bought my very first one in early March 2005. The son-in-law of ex South African friends of mine is a computer guru, and he built it for me.

I didn't even know how to switch the thing on.

The first thing I did, after learning how to send emails, was to try to find a disability group. And I found one. After a lot of more and more inquisitive questions, someone said Oh, so why is disability treatment so much better for Jews in Israel than for the Palestinians.

What I did not know then was that the group, a private group, showed not my full email address, but my first name and the name of my email provider.

Incidentally, I am using my legitimate yahoo address for this site - the other email address is my private address, which I am willing to give to the owners of this site should they request it.

So this clever dick said oh, blank.net, that's an Israeli address. Well of course it is, because at that time it was the only Israeli telephone company in Israel.

Anyhow, I was verbally abused on the site, and had very nasty emails sent as somehow they managed to get my full email address. This was stopped by my ISP.

I then tried a public messageboard, not the one I'm currently complaining about, tried to hide the fact that I live in Israel and that I'm a Jew, until someone twigged that I didn't post on Shabbatot or Chagim [Shabbatot is the plural of Shabbat, the Sabbath, and Chagim is the pluran of Chag, Festival/Holy Day].

And I got shot down in pieces by various people on that set of boards.

So then I was told about the messageboards on which I've been posting since then. Busy boards. Many different separate boards.

And what has happened? Same old, same old. But I refuse to leave those boards, because I have to stand up [ok, so sit up in my wheelchair] and fight for the right to be me, and the right to post as a Jew and an Israeli.

I'm a chair user. So what. I had an accident and slipped on an icecream wrapper and fell down a flight of stone stairs. So what. I broke my back and neck. So what. I can just about cope with a few minutes on my feet using my forearm crutches for the times I need to stand to prepare and cook food, and if I can bear to wear my leg braces, one of which comes up to and around my waist, then I can stand for a few minutes longer, only those calipers hurt, believe me they hurt.

But the point is that I am me. I am still the same person inside this mostly useless body, and thanks to learning shorthand and touch typing before I went to university, I am able to cope with scribbling the odd note and coping with the keyboard.

Shorthand is OK as I can still read that whereas I can't really read my longhand these days, as I can't really hold a pen properly.

When I applied to join this site I said I was a chair user and agoraphobic. Why the latter? Because on 14 May 2008 I had an appointment at my audiologist about my new hearing aid [neither aids nor batteries are free here] and after that an appointment with my orthopod.

Only I wasn't well and phoned that morning to cancel. And that late afternoon I heard an explosion and my little concrete bungalow shook. And I knew, oh I knew, that it was a building that had been hit and not just another one landing in an open space.

And I should have been there, because the Grad Katyusha hit the roof and shattered all the Health clinics on the top floor of the shopping mall.

I should have been there Tony.

And now I can never go there again. I can't go into town. I can maybe go to the big shopping centre up the road maybe once a year, if that.

Even going more than 100 metres from my home is difficult for me now.

I should have been here, on Wednesday 14 May 2008

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<br><br>Post edited by: Gandra, at: 2009/07/18 22:29

Gandra sweetness..Im sitting in my nice cosy home in Kent having read what youve been through and Im so full of anger ( for you) that it needs directing at the bastards who attack you for things out of your control.....If I was talking to them now I would update them on a few facts ( as I know them)....

1....Your birth place and nationality and religious are outside your control and a subject of upbringing...For that you need never to apologise...
2....Throughout history Jewish people have been persecuted by almost every nation on earth....The Germans attempted to remove all jewish people from the earth and killed at least 8 million in discusting inhuman ways.....For that the Entire Free World should be on its knees and begging for forgiveness....
3.....The State of Israel was set aside by the Allied Nations for freedom-loving Jews to live....to remove a potential crisis from their doorsteps......We should all hang our heads in shame...
4.....The Palestinians got caught in the cross-fire of politics and legal land wranglings......The UN has had the chances to resolve their plight but resisted....Not your fault or control...
5.....You are a lady with much to challenge her on a daily basis.....Your attackers should be ashamed and show their true colours and ignorance....
6.... You have nothing to defend in my eyes....God Bless you xxxx

<br><br>Post edited by: Gandra, at: 2009/07/18 20:49

I guess this was the wrong place to have posted what I have - I wanted to edit my last post as I'd worded it in a way I shouldn't, and also take something out, but messed up so deleted the lot and this is what I wanted to say.

See I don't want sympathy, just understanding, just as I don't want sympathy for my accident, which was due to a stupid child leaving an ice-cream wrapper at the top of a flight of stone stairs and the woman in charge of the block hadn't bothered to replace a dead lightbulb.

I don't understand why people want to hurt me psychologically they way they have - it's not as if I'm hiding where I live.

I can cope, just, with everyday life although I did panic during the last war because I couldn't hear the Colour Red sirens for an incoming, not that I have a safe place in my little bungalow, but I was eventually given a beeper to keep in my pocket or under a pillow at night, that vibrated if the sirens went off.

Hey, I kept a vibrator under my pillow!

Seriously though, when Igal was killed during the Lebanon war - not KIA but his driver rolled the car and Igal was killed - and that lot were all going on about how evil we were.

And this last time, when they knew I was in a war zone, did they care?

But I don't want to be attacked and bullied, and cyber bullying hurts even though it's from faceless people hiding behind computer monitors, who hate me for what I am and where I am.

Which is why if one person on this board ever says anything bad about Jews or Israel, I'll be off faster than you can blink.

Sorry - don't know why I have said all this except I feel safe here.

I think.

I hope.

I just don't know any more. All I do know is that if I don't \&quot;show\&quot; myself up front, then people will find out sooner or later, and if I'm going to be shot down in flames here, I'd rather it be sooner than later.

Sorry about the duplicated post earler. I've now deleted it, together with the original of this one.

if you are delibetaly picked out on this site soley for colour race or creed the boss will ban them not you
we are all here for one reason or another some members come here becuse they are cares .. some just to make friends with new ppl and some phraps because this site is not big and they feel safe
i have been made welcome here and hope everybody here feels welcome and safe

Thanks Ducky :kiss:

I've only been online on and off since my accident on Sunday, but knowing that this place is safe makes me feel very happy that I joined.

Now to catch up on everything I've missed...